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Garfield99 Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 416 Location : Australia Registration date : 2012-02-15
| Subject: Re: NHS Free Lapbanding Fri 28 Nov 2014, 6:15 pm | |
| Fatboyslims - how you have been treated is disgusting!!!
I can recommend a clinic in WA that will do it as your BMI is over 40 and they will do the sleeve publicly, I just don't know what the out of pocket cost is as I think they charged some stupid $2k admin fee? PM me if you interested and if you need a place to stay for a few weeks to recover, I've got a spare bedroom, with close access to that particular surgeon or even closer to my own surgeon (but I don't think he takes on uninsured patients - but will be happy to give advice if I ask him nicely as he knows through all my surgeries, I've always told him - you were honest, not sure yet - let me go to an international conference and find out best solution for you. Three further appointments later I agree and never look back.
Now I wouldn't let any other surgeon touch me. After a messed up band, sleeve that almost killed me, emergency bypass with opening made too big so food hitting lower intestines - after the rest of my body happily absorbed all the bad sugars and fats, so started putting on weight again 10kg in 2 months. The surgeon refused to touch me unless I got back to my original wright.
There are two I will personally recommend. One does private patients, and the 2nd does publicly. If you need publicly then call them and arrange teleconference, then they will you an idea on when surgery will happens. AFTER the surgery , tell them you are shifting states due to work reasons and want to recommend in your area. | |
| | | Fatboyslims Newbie
Number of posts : 14 Age : 56 Location : Adelaide Registration date : 2013-08-18
| Subject: Re: NHS Free Lapbanding Fri 28 Nov 2014, 7:59 am | |
| - Garfield99 wrote:
- My lapband was done publicly in WA and there are a few places that do it now. It's offered if you have a BMI between 30-40. Over 40 you can get the gastric sleeve but the waiting list for that is heaps longer and more requirements to get it stricter.
As a former lapbander, I would never recommend it. It has messed up so many stomaches and personally I think a complete waste of time and surgery. It is extremely hard to eat normally on the lapband. You can't eat lettuce, any meat apart from seafood and sliders. Usually you end up with food stuck, throw it up and it is inflamed so then you sit there starving and hungry - so you eat sliders like chips, lollies - whatever you can get down as you end up sick of living off protein shakes and blended soups for months on end.
The idea of it restricting what you can eat, so you have to chew more, eat slower blah blah is a load of B.S. and if you speak to most ex-bandits they will tell you the same thing. The high amount of people on this site alone that have switched from band to sleeve with much more improved quality of life and lost weight speaks for itself. I spent a year either vomiting, starving, unable to socialise with events that involved food and my surgeon was completely un-supportive - go back on the optifast he said as he shoved me out the door.
If you have a BMI over 30 with co-morbs and have a history of weight loss problems, then the sleeve should be made available. Eventually it will be as it is available privately as not only do people realise the band rarely works for the majority, surgeons are coming on side with this too. This also stops the issue before it gets out of control. People are living on duromine, protein shakes and depression for years and just maintaining their BMI under 35. In order for the ones that can't afford to pay for PHI plus the massive Gap fees, they literally have to put on weight and put their health at risk to be eligible. A lot of people know they have a weight issue that they have been dealing with for years and to get it done earlier results in weight loss stabilisation results quicker, some recovery for the depression and also avoid the plastic surgeon. Thanks Garfield99 BMI is 41, Went to Public Obesity clinic 2yr wait all to be told that the Surgeon who comes weekly wouldn't prob do it. Load of Bollocks if you ask me, I wasn't to happy some guy not sure who he was, maybe a Nurse or someone seen me not the Surgeon. Wish i never bothered to wait the 2yrs, I am big enough 130kg 6ft 46yr old male is big enough. He said oh the Surgeon would prob expect you to be 170kg we seen bigger.....and well we only do Gastric Bypass here anyhow blah blah...then tried to refer me to a Psychologist . I don't fancy having Bypass surgery! so i am lost now as to what to do no PHI.
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| | | Garfield99 Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 416 Location : Australia Registration date : 2012-02-15
| Subject: Re: NHS Free Lapbanding Thu 27 Nov 2014, 3:17 pm | |
| My lapband was done publicly in WA and there are a few places that do it now. It's offered if you have a BMI between 30-40. Over 40 you can get the gastric sleeve but the waiting list for that is heaps longer and more requirements to get it stricter.
As a former lapbander, I would never recommend it. It has messed up so many stomaches and personally I think a complete waste of time and surgery. It is extremely hard to eat normally on the lapband. You can't eat lettuce, any meat apart from seafood and sliders. Usually you end up with food stuck, throw it up and it is inflamed so then you sit there starving and hungry - so you eat sliders like chips, lollies - whatever you can get down as you end up sick of living off protein shakes and blended soups for months on end.
The idea of it restricting what you can eat, so you have to chew more, eat slower blah blah is a load of B.S. and if you speak to most ex-bandits they will tell you the same thing. The high amount of people on this site alone that have switched from band to sleeve with much more improved quality of life and lost weight speaks for itself. I spent a year either vomiting, starving, unable to socialise with events that involved food and my surgeon was completely un-supportive - go back on the optifast he said as he shoved me out the door.
If you have a BMI over 30 with co-morbs and have a history of weight loss problems, then the sleeve should be made available. Eventually it will be as it is available privately as not only do people realise the band rarely works for the majority, surgeons are coming on side with this too. This also stops the issue before it gets out of control. People are living on duromine, protein shakes and depression for years and just maintaining their BMI under 35. In order for the ones that can't afford to pay for PHI plus the massive Gap fees, they literally have to put on weight and put their health at risk to be eligible. A lot of people know they have a weight issue that they have been dealing with for years and to get it done earlier results in weight loss stabilisation results quicker, some recovery for the depression and also avoid the plastic surgeon. | |
| | | Fatboyslims Newbie
Number of posts : 14 Age : 56 Location : Adelaide Registration date : 2013-08-18
| Subject: NHS Free Lapbanding Thu 27 Nov 2014, 11:58 am | |
| I wish Australia would follow this. Ughhhh!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-million-obese-brits-free-4703363?ICID=FB_mirror_main | |
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| Poll | | Do you support WLS being publicly funded for anyone who need it? | Yes, for those with BMI over 50 | | 15% | [ 82 ] | Yes, for those with BMI over 40 | | 45% | [ 249 ] | Yes, for those with BMI over 30 | | 21% | [ 115 ] | Yes, only if they have other significant obesity related health issues | | 15% | [ 84 ] | No, they should have private insurance or be prepared to self fund | | 5% | [ 29 ] |
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