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D'Girlz Top Poster
Number of posts : 1749 Age : 49 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2011-01-09
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Wed 07 Dec 2011, 11:19 am | |
| LL, Where abouts in Melbourne are you? If you are close, I will walk with you. | |
| | | Gen Newbie
Number of posts : 101 Location : QLD Registration date : 2011-08-03
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 11:54 am | |
| I really can't say much more than has already been said. Weight loss is a personal journey and what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. It's a shame your family can't be more supportive of your decision, but you know what? This is for you, not them! It's helpful that you do have a goal and a timeframe to focus on - prove to them that you can do it!
As far as the cost of Optifast, as Tash said Optislim is a good alternaitve and if you have a Chemist Warehouse nearby they sell 2 boxes (that's 21 per box) for $50. That works out to about $1.20 per serve. Another suggestion would be to try some diet jellies, some people can't bear them but I found them great when I had a craving for sweets. If you make them up into small cups you can get 8 serves per box, which works out to be approx 21c per serve.
Good luck with your goal and remember we are here for you. :) | |
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| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 9:14 am | |
| Gottarhyme : I too have previously lost lots of weight on the coffee, cigarettes and alcohol diet and made myself extremely sick in the process. It's terrible the things we are willing to do to our bodies! (including being so ovrweight). The reason the doc wants me to lose so much is i'm currently 165kg with BMI of 71. So though the weight is not over 200, because i'm SO short.... it's almost the same if you know what I mean. I don't mind the challenge and from what the surgeon said I think if I only loose 20 he'll still be happy.
Louise : you are really quite inspiring to me :) Thank you
Tash : thanks for that, i'll check them out.
Erin : sent you a mesage
Sassy : I have a friend who has also grilled me to death about the surgery but she was doing it to make sure *I* had thought it all through and was sure in my reasons etc..... she's still not keen on the idea, but happy to support me knowing it's MY decision and I've researched and thought about it thoroughly!
EVERYONE : Thank you for the lovely messages. I'm feeling quite a bit more cheery tonight knowing my "other" family in here will support me even when my real one wont/cant.
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| | | sassyred Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 657 Age : 53 Location : Canterbury, New Zealand Registration date : 2011-09-01
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 8:56 am | |
| Oh lizzardlover we are all behind you! This is your journey and your time to shine. If this is the right decision for you, then don't pay any attention to what other people think. A well meaning friend really grilled me about my decision because she thought it was way too extreme - and now that I'm 6 weeks out and doing so well she is saying other big friends of ours should go and do it too! Bloody cheek of it!
You go get your goal, gurl!! | |
| | | Eringirl Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 633 Age : 58 Location : Townsville Registration date : 2011-06-05
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 8:47 am | |
| hi Lizard Lover
i hope you dont take this the wrong way, but i am a few weeks post op now and i have two boxes of coffee and strawberry optislim. some have been used, but i am more than willing to send whats left to you. PM me if you want them. Quite a few surgeons offer optislim as in interchange to the optifast. | |
| | | Tash Top Poster
Number of posts : 1492 Age : 62 Location : Western Sydney Registration date : 2011-03-30
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 8:43 am | |
| Lizardlover. Try optislim. It is much cheaper than optifast and it does the same job. Go for the VLCD ones. Stands for Very Low Calorie Diet. You should be able to afford it as you are not buying as much food. Let us know how you go with it. Tash | |
| | | louie42 Newbie
Number of posts : 105 Age : 55 Location : Albury/Wodonga Registration date : 2011-08-15
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 8:32 am | |
| Lizzardlover,
l am so sorry you have to wait till march and loose 30kilos, l know it seems to be a huge ask,,,but honestly do the best you can, belive in yourself is they key l did when l did opti every morning l repeated l will l can stick to this and l did, was it easy hell no! there were times l wanted to wave the tea towel and say enough! But l didnt l still am so proud of myself as like everyone around me thought l couldnt! I was over 220kilos 5 weeks ago and now lm 21 kilos down. Lizardlover when l felt over welmed or weak l would get on this site read read read lol and my attitude was soon back in check. You CAN DO THIS and were all here to help you along the way!
Good Luck with it all, remember belive in yourself l belive in you!
Take care
Louise | |
| | | gottarhyme Top Poster
Number of posts : 3826 Age : 62 Location : Riverina Registration date : 2011-02-22
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 8:13 am | |
| Tell your sister to talk to you in a year's time. My sister also lost a LOT of weight, on what I like to call the 'coffee, cigarettes and alcohol' diet. She lost it through not eating. At ALL! I saw her last week, and she has regained 8 KG. I don't think she will ever be fat again, because she has decided that cigarettes keep her from eating. However, she is SUPREMELY supportive of me. The sleeve is a great tool. It stops me from eating too much. I find just my regular walking around with my very active job keeps me on my toes, and the weight keeps sliding away. If your Doctor wants you to lose 30KG BEFORE you are sleeved, I think you will have to be a lot more active! Before I was sleeved I would have found it difficult to loose that amount alone! How much do you have to lose? I know of people in here that have lost that amount pre sleeve, but they were over 200kg. Most Doctors advise us to go on Opti fast for between 2 and 6 weeks, depending on how overweight we are, and the danger of putting us under anaesthetic with all the weight pressing on our heart and our lungs. | |
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| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:51 am | |
| - chrisbychic wrote:
- Oh, also, you might find a sleever who would be willing to walk with you... I see you are in Melbourne, but I can't offer because I'm having a hysterectomy next week and will be out of action for quite some time.
Oh good luck next week!! My sister had a hysterectomy a couple of years ago (she was only in her 30's) and the best advice I have is DO NOT OVER DO THINGS. LOL. She thought she felt great and started doing a lot of walking and it made her recovery longer than it needed to be. Rest and allow your body to heal! :) |
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| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:46 am | |
| Thanks it's nice to know you guys will all be here to support me :)
I've done so many diets over the years i'm SURE i know what to do to get the weight comming off, the problem has never been LOSING weight as I do that quite well.... it's KEEPING it off or keeping on going after a few weeks when the "novelty" of it wears off.
I'm planning to make myself a vision board on which I will put pictures and words to inspire me on my journey over the next few weeks. I'm also looking for some work or voluntary work somewhere to get me out of the house and thus less likely to EAT LOL.
I CAN DO THIS and the best "revenge" is going to be showing my family i've done it and come out better for it in the long run. :) |
| | | skinnygreyhound Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 969 Age : 51 Location : New Zealand Registration date : 2011-04-16
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:45 am | |
| Lizardlover just wanted to give you some support- of course you can do it! Absolutely! no doubt Im sure it won't be easy - nothing worth it ever is- the sleeve is a great tool that will help you go further and keep off the weight you lose now Vronnie is right- only healthy stuff in moderation and as much exercise as you can manage!! Optifast is great you could always buy as much as you can afford and use it when you can - this site is very supportive full of useful information I told everyone as I decided i wasn't ashamed of surgery- and I am pleased I did I have only had one comment made to me that was a bit off but so what I have not however told my parents! I don't have a good relationship with them and they have never asked or noticed I have had to heal that relationship along the way in my head and that has been a huge part of the weightloss journey- and probably always will be Be strong- people on here ARE strong and have huge reserves of inner strength we've needed it on our journey - it will help you now Go for it :))) | |
| | | chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:44 am | |
| Oh, also, you might find a sleever who would be willing to walk with you... I see you are in Melbourne, but I can't offer because I'm having a hysterectomy next week and will be out of action for quite some time. | |
| | | chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:41 am | |
| Hi there Lizard Lover Vronnie is right - we're here for you, even if your family can't give you the support you need. You could try eating what sleevers eat after healing - no portion more than an entree size, mostly protein, then veg, and very little carb. And if you can start walking, and just do a little more each day, you're sure to start losing again. We've all done it before, as I'm sure you have, and you can do it again. The difference this time is that you'll get help after the 12 weeks to keep it off. Good luck! | |
| | | Vronnie Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 596 Location : NSW, Australia Registration date : 2011-02-14
| Subject: Re: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:30 am | |
| Hi Lizzardlover
It's such a personal journey this losing weight business. I didn't tell anyone except DH. I'm sorry you feel so unsupported but we're all here on the forum & we're all sure that you're going to give this March appt. weight loss goal a great shot.
Walking's every day is a great idea & it's also great that you'll have the opportunity to be a public patient. If you've ever done Weight Watchers & most of us on this forum probabley have, than you could just try following those principles ove the next 12weeks...lots of fruit & veg, lean protein, wholegrain cereals/bread & no processed food. I'm sure you'll do really well beacause you've got a big carrot in front of you now.
Your Mum's probably worried about you & your sister just sounds like she's being competitive. Don't worry about them...talk to us instead we'll help.
Cheers
vronnie | |
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| Subject: so upset, family not as supportive as I thought Tue 06 Dec 2011, 7:08 am | |
| So, I havent had my sleeve yet. I THOUGHT my family were fully supportive.
Today I met the surgeon and he has issued a "challenge" of sorts to me. He wants me to loose as MUCH weight as I can (any way I want to do it too....) before I see him on 13th March. He said to aim for 30kg but realistically he knows that will be tough. IF he's happy with what he see's when I go back in March he will book my operation for march/april :) Since i'm going PUBLIC hospital for this, thats just fantastic.
So I rang my mum to tell her and I swear she couldn't have been more negative if she tried. Not just about my loosing weight before March but really about the whole thing. It was really upsetting. I don't think she "meant" to upset me or come across how she did but I really took one message from what she said and it was "your going to fail before hand and not get surgery". She just doesnt get that having a GOAL or deffinate target will be an enormous help to me in pushing me to keep going!! It's only 12 weeks.
I can't afford Optifast so need to find some other suitable shake I can use. I'm also going to try implementing an evening walk with my daughter when possible or i'll go to the shops and walk walk walk and window shop during the day I guess.
Also my sister got on the band wagon. Just because SHE managed to loose nearly 40kg through dieting and going to the gym she said to me "well just stop eating JUNK FOOD and you won't even need surgery" Yeah, if it was that bloody easy I wouldn't be where I am now would I???
So upset. Need support and not getting it where I thought I would. :( |
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