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+3chrisbychic momof2boys Shanna 7 posters | Author | Message |
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lilac Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 374 Age : 52 Location : Australia Registration date : 2010-08-02
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Thu 23 Sep 2010, 11:42 am | |
| What I've heard is that when sleeves are performed by the surgeon, it's his/her choice as to how narrow the sleeve actually is. If the surgeon makes the sleeve wider, then ofcourse you will be able to eat more than the person with the narrower sleeve. A person can also be 're-sleeved' which means you can narrow your sleeve with surgery to kick start your weight loss again.
Hope this helps,
Big hugs,
Kris | |
| | | mini_me_tobe Newbie
Number of posts : 36 Location : usa Registration date : 2010-05-12
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Wed 22 Sep 2010, 2:45 am | |
| let me clarify what i meant by slider.. if i eat egg salad with steak i can eat more food than if i was to eat steak and half a boiled egg.. ill feel more full on the 2nd option tho than the first and the only difference is the mayonaise... i have not tried to eat more on top tho ... i try to wait 3 hours between meals but i do no longer stay full that long. and sometimes do eat about 2-2.5 hours later which was a bit of a worry cos i dont want to become a grazer.
but i am pleased to hear that it levels out. | |
| | | applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Wed 22 Sep 2010, 2:33 am | |
| The far easier to digest thing is so true. Tho eating mayo with steak doesnt make it slide though, steak still has to digest to leave the stomach. BUT I will say the oh you are not full feeling tends to be just a sensation if you try and eat more it usally doesnt fit, as in dessert. I have found that stuffed to the gills feeling goes far faster now and I think oh I can try dessert but when I do I find out very fast that after a spoon I am right back at that stuffed to the gills feeling.
But like you the staying full for longer is a dense protien. I found the digesting food easier leveled out at about 18 months for me and I am aproaching 3 years now.
applesauce | |
| | | mini_me_tobe Newbie
Number of posts : 36 Location : usa Registration date : 2010-05-12
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Wed 22 Sep 2010, 12:09 am | |
| what i have noticed is the further i get out, the quicker food is passing through the system, which means i get hungrier sooner, things even like egg salad become slider foods even when eaten with steak, because of the mayonaise..
from talking to others further out again, two years and three years they do say it does seem to get even worse so because they are eating more and therefore eating more calories.. there is not the same wiggle room to eat junk food.
most of my food i try to eat now is dense protein, but i only eat 3-4 oz of meat at a time. i can eat half a cup of yogurt then im full so still have lots of restriction it just does not keep me full as long any more. | |
| | | applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Thu 16 Sep 2010, 4:02 am | |
| RNY bypass has masses of problems with stretching because it is done as a pouch and not along the tough part of the stomach like a sleeve. It also has masses of problems with the fake valve the put in stretching and the food just dumping right though into the intestine. Regain with the RNY bypass is now aproaching 40-60% of patients over about 5 years in the USA. For some it works there is just far to many things that go wrong like the lapband. If they will do a bypass then see if they will do a DS bypass as that has close to zero failure.
applesauce | |
| | | Carrie Top Poster
Number of posts : 2601 Age : 64 Location : Sydney NSW Registration date : 2009-09-17
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Wed 15 Sep 2010, 10:51 pm | |
| Hi Shanna,
I'm sorry to hear about your daughter, but pleased for her that she has you to help her through.
I don't know about the stretching as my only contact with other sleevers is through this site, but it is something that worries me. I have been back to hospital for two dilations/stretches due to pain when eating and it does scare me that later on my stomach may stretch/relax as a matter of course, and that by having these dilations now I may have set myself up for a worse fall later on.
Do you think that the 10lbs you have put on is due to the amount you can eat now or that you eating naughty things too often?
Cheers - Carrie | |
| | | chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Wed 15 Sep 2010, 9:45 pm | |
| Hi Shanna I haven't ever heard of anyone putting weight on after a bypass, but then I haven't had much to do with them, either. My doc told me that if I had a bypass, I'd never put on weight again... As for the sleeve, you obviously already know that you can put weight on after having it done - good luck with the shakes, and I hope the nutritionist can help you. Not sure about the sleeve stretching, as my doc said that it wouldn't stretch much at all - but have heard that others have found that it does. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but good luck to both you and your daughter. | |
| | | momof2boys Newbie
Number of posts : 54 Age : 52 Location : west virginia Registration date : 2010-09-06
| Subject: Re: Stomach stretching Wed 15 Sep 2010, 5:54 pm | |
| - Shanna wrote:
- My 19 year old daughter is now in the sad position that she is going to need gastric surgery however her insurance plan will NOT approve a sleeve and frankly I can't afford to do it without the plan, so she is going to have to get a gastric bypass. Ridiculous I know. I am two years out from my sleeve and honestly I never bothered to go back to the surgeon after the initial checkup... ridiculous again- I now know because I was doing a lot of things wrong- like taking the wrong kind of calcium... although I maintained my weight loss until about a month ago.
Anyway, I attended one of my daughter's presurgery nutrition meetings, and now I am going for regular nutritional counseling to keep me on the straight and narrow...
This nutritionist went over and over that the stomach can stretch in either surgery and that she has a patient that regained 250 pounds on the bypass and that the sleeve has similar problems, etc., etc.
More and more I am hearing that people are regaining the weight- is that because I am in America and stretching is prevalent with the bypass? Was she just trying to scare the crap out of us? Because if she was trying she succeeded.
Meantime I am up ten pounds and I am back to protein shakes as of this morning for at least one or two meals per day until I get back down to fighting weight. What is your experience in Australia, etc.
Shanna around where I live I have seen a few put there weight back on after the bypass but that is because they ate and drank anything they wanted and kept stretching the tummy out. i have not seen anyone put the weight back on after the sleeve but there is not that many of them done around here. | |
| | | Shanna Sponsor
Number of posts : 633 Age : 68 Location : Bedford, NY USA Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Stomach stretching Wed 15 Sep 2010, 4:26 pm | |
| My 19 year old daughter is now in the sad position that she is going to need gastric surgery however her insurance plan will NOT approve a sleeve and frankly I can't afford to do it without the plan, so she is going to have to get a gastric bypass. Ridiculous I know. I am two years out from my sleeve and honestly I never bothered to go back to the surgeon after the initial checkup... ridiculous again- I now know because I was doing a lot of things wrong- like taking the wrong kind of calcium... although I maintained my weight loss until about a month ago.
Anyway, I attended one of my daughter's presurgery nutrition meetings, and now I am going for regular nutritional counseling to keep me on the straight and narrow...
This nutritionist went over and over that the stomach can stretch in either surgery and that she has a patient that regained 250 pounds on the bypass and that the sleeve has similar problems, etc., etc.
More and more I am hearing that people are regaining the weight- is that because I am in America and stretching is prevalent with the bypass? Was she just trying to scare the crap out of us? Because if she was trying she succeeded.
Meantime I am up ten pounds and I am back to protein shakes as of this morning for at least one or two meals per day until I get back down to fighting weight. What is your experience in Australia, etc.
Shanna | |
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