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+20The Pocket Rocket HelloSkinny Libby chrisbychic Sam bigbugger71 nicolev1969 Shanna em78 oldfart ssteph2342 Admin LavenderRose applesauce Liquefied_stars kittycat chrysalis newlife ferret42 shazza73 24 posters |
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applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 19 Oct 2009, 8:23 am | |
| Another thankies :)
As for passing up dessert NEVER hehehe well when out never have it at home. always fit in a spoon of something now. But it is normal to see a dessert where the male of the species and I have both eaten what we want and more than half is left. Pretty funny tho I like 2 squares of lindt chcolate most nights after dinner. a few weeks ago I said to the male of the species oh I will be a devil give me 4. I tell you the hair on the back of my neck stood up and it felt horrible. I have not had any chocolate again since then *LOL* I promise anybody reading this I know it sounds weird but NONE of this stuff is oh gawd I want this I just cant have it or fit it in feelings they just dont exist after a while when you have had the sleeve. Sure you fight the buggery with it for the first few months you even scheme how to fit stuff in, I did *LOL* but the reality is those feelings just go away. I now adore food total foodie to the max but there is not longing or missing the junk or the pig outs. I mean sure I did want to be a judge on iron cheif and that dream has now gone hehehe but come on reality check this is an amazing life and sure it does suck for a few months but I promise life becomes amazing.
You honestly think bugger when faced with rubbish food you once scoffed with joy and crave crunchie salads and the best steak and to die for menus. the way your body responds once it is fueled with good food is awsome :)
I drool over a good menu and hey I might even order 2 entrees to taste them both but get real you spent more than that before surgery, to bad if I do not eat half of it. I damn well enjoy tasting them and do not feel like I missed out on a single thing.
Get out enjoy life once you can eat a little drink a little and get on with life, it is a party after all. if you are in Perth come along to a get together and see how we do it :)
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Countrygirl Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 811 Age : 55 Location : Albany WA Registration date : 2008-12-09
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 19 Oct 2009, 5:07 am | |
| I actually went to friends house on Saturday night with hubby and they all made home made pizza in their pizza oven. I went past the fish and chip shop and grabbed a piece of crumbed snapper. After they all had their pizza there was strawberries and cream and roses chocolates on offer. The girls all asked me whether it bothered me that they were eating chocolates in front of me and I can honestly say no it didn't. I was still full after my small 50g piece of fish. I find it wonderful that food doesn't rule me any more and I don't have to eat the nibbles "just because they are there" or "too keep the hostess happy". And the best past is I get 3 meals out of that serve of snapper so my $8.50 equalled $2.80 per serve. I am now classed as a cheap date. LOL | |
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lindabinda Top Poster
Number of posts : 1884 Age : 67 Location : Bayside, Brisbane, QLD Registration date : 2009-07-31
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 19 Oct 2009, 2:48 am | |
| Applesauce..... try peters fish and chips.... they are before you get to seaworls on the left immediately past versace! They do great grilled fish, have salads and a wonderful variety of fresh seafood, we regularly go down there just for peter's.... and enjoy your holiday!!! Lozzy...... great you have a counsellor already! I have found my psychologist to be wonderful. I really don't miss food and have found that if I want something I have a little bit and am satisfied with it. And believe me you will be satisfied with small amounts, it is when you are faced with a large plateful that you start freaking!!! It is way easier than you think preop. You just can't manage it and it is ok, especially once you get your head around it!! Good luck and look forward to reading more from you! | |
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Lozzy Newbie
Number of posts : 24 Age : 45 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-08-24
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 19 Oct 2009, 2:11 am | |
| I am glad i found this thread. I dont have my surgery until April next year but it seems to be the only thing i can think about lately. i constantly think of what i will be able to have after surgery, how much i can have. i am worried that i am not going to cope with the small amounts of food. food has been my best friend it seems for many years and now things will change. i wont be able to turn to it and the amounts when i have had a bad day, good day, crying moment, happy occasion etc...... i suppose that i am just thinking too much. my counsellor said that she will work with me right up till my surgery date and then after when it is done and i have to adjust. i am lucky in that respect. thank you for bringing up this subject again. Lozzy | |
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applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sun 18 Oct 2009, 9:02 am | |
| Thank you so much we are actually staying in Helensvale at a holiday unit there. so those are so handy. I was doing a big pile of google maps last night :)
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mumto3kiddies Newbie
Number of posts : 74 Age : 52 Location : Gold Coast, Australia Registration date : 2009-07-02
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sun 18 Oct 2009, 8:38 am | |
| Hey Applesauce I can help you for a change. so great you are coming to the gold coast I can give you a bit of the low down for food places cause I live 7minutes from Dreamworld and go past movie world, wet n wild and dreamworld EVERYDAY day. so if ya don't want to eat in the parks and sux now that you can't take food in. Movieworld/Wet n Wild (basically next door to each other) Have to walk or can drive under the freeway - basically opposite movie world itself. But there is a group of shops that you can choose from: McDonalds Cafe - just done up with maccas, wraps etc. KFC Subway Sushi Baskin Robins - sorry had to throw that in.. hehe Eagle boys that do toasted sandwhichs now Savlaki (??) or what ever it is... Zaraffas down the road - beautiful coffee (actually roasted on site) with salad wraps etc. Dreamworld. BP over the otherside of dreamworld Macdonalds BP with the salads, wraps, coffee Chicken place - can't think of the name of it. 5 minutes drive from Dreamworld (side side as BP) - Woolies, Zarrafas coffee, fish n chips with really nice salads, sandwiches, chicken etc, chinese, subway Seaworld - havn't been down that way for a while, but need to drive and there is fresh seafood as well as can cook fish n chips etc But apart from that, have to drive back down to Marina Mirage and there is McDonalds, cafe's, nervous taverns, seafood places etc. Hope that is a bit of a help... | |
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applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sat 17 Oct 2009, 8:14 am | |
| Look how time flies. We are planing our trip to the Gold Coast and it is a week of theme parks where you are NOT allowed to take your own food with you. It is not a oh gawd terror at how much weight I will gain it is oh gawwwwwwwwd there is no way I can eat rubbish day after day after day. the thought just makes me want to puke. Hey I enjoy the occasional 1/2 a good hamburger from fast eddies or a very good burger joint but not the swill dished out at fast food outlets, and not even twice in one week let alone 3 or 4 times. funny thing is it would have been pure heaven that thought before surgery *LOL* See how you change when it comes to food :)
Okay seaworld has nice stuff but please I can not bring myself to eat the exhbitions hehehehe
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The Pocket Rocket Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 203 Age : 69 Location : Rockingham, WA Registration date : 2009-03-31
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sat 17 Oct 2009, 8:01 am | |
| The mental side of the weight loss journey is definitely the most difficult. But then our minds control our bodies so if we aren't in control mentally we can't be in control physically.
I was banded for 5 years and the metal side of the journey was enormously difficult. Then I had my band out a month ago and have to wait a further three and a half months before I can have my sleeve done. I'm terribly worried and scared about how much weight I'm going to gain in that time. I go to see a counsellor and also saw a hypnotherapist on Thursday to try to help me control my eating while waiting for the sleeve.
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HelloSkinny Newbie
Number of posts : 67 Age : 48 Location : Los Angeles Registration date : 2009-05-01
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sat 17 Oct 2009, 7:13 am | |
| Great Idea Libby. I start finding at myself cheating with normal food (got spaghetti with met sauce, a little tiny bit but still) when I should be still liquid/mushie...I really need to be better. | |
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Libby Top Poster
Number of posts : 1975 Age : 52 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2009-07-04
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sat 17 Oct 2009, 5:37 am | |
| I found this thread and thought i'd bump it back up the list as I know that I have been struggling with the small amount I can eat at the moment. I know as time goes on I should be able to eat more but at this stage (nearly 5 weeks out) it is hard work mentally. Is anyone else struggling?? | |
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nicolev1969 Top Poster
Number of posts : 1216 Age : 54 Location : bunbury Registration date : 2008-05-28
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 2:05 pm | |
| hi kitty,
yep the same here...that time of the month does make me want the naughty stuff more...but like chris said a small amount normally stops it in its tracks
That time of the month also plays havoc with the scales....i dont lose much that week
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ssteph2342 Top Poster
Number of posts : 1344 Age : 60 Location : Adelaide Registration date : 2008-05-27
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 8:56 am | |
| - kittycat wrote:
- I'm feeling alot more i control of my eating the last few days and I think its because last week i was pre-menstrual.
This was always my most challenging time...well...ok i used to stuff my face at every opportunity...far more than the oter 3 weeks.... so...i'm thinking that alot of my cravings were related to that....what do you other post-sleevers think ? do you still find that a challenging time of the month for 'head hunger' ?? Hi Kittycat, I find that time of the month a challenge too. I was having mad sweet cravings. steph | |
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chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 5:04 am | |
| Wow - you can eat 2 boiled eggs AND salad? I can only have one egg, although that can have a little milk and cheese with it to scramble. Couldn't fit 2 in though - I'm jealous!!! LOL Chris | |
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kittycat Newbie
Number of posts : 74 Location : Auckland, New Zealand Registration date : 2008-08-17
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 4:22 am | |
| Yes now I think about it I didnt really get that feeling of fullness last week either which I definitely have today, made 2 hard boiled eggs and a little a salad for lunch and only had 1 egg and salad and the salad tasted really good too !!! do does this mean i'll be come one of those skinny minny salad eaters - lol !!! never thought THAT would happen.... | |
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chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 3:45 am | |
| Absolutely! And I also find that I can fit more in at "that time of the month" too - and I'm also noticing an increaed appetite half way through my cycle, as well. But it doesn't last for too long, and only a little food will satisfy it - thank goodness! I'm totally with you on the feeling more in control bit - that definitely applies to me, too, and I'm very grateful for it, after feeling out of control about food for so long! Chris | |
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kittycat Newbie
Number of posts : 74 Location : Auckland, New Zealand Registration date : 2008-08-17
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 3:38 am | |
| I'm feeling alot more i control of my eating the last few days and I think its because last week i was pre-menstrual. This was always my most challenging time...well...ok i used to stuff my face at every opportunity...far more than the oter 3 weeks.... so...i'm thinking that alot of my cravings were related to that....what do you other post-sleevers think ? do you still find that a challenging time of the month for 'head hunger' ?? | |
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chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Mon 08 Sep 2008, 3:18 am | |
| Ooh, I do like this thread. Makes me feel more normal! LOL I, too, have battled all these feelings. And - mostly - I am now winning. Oh, right before and after the op I found that I was really missingfood a lot- but it was a bit different then, because I couldn't have anything much. Now, I can eat a lot more variety, but not much volume of food. And I love variety in my food! But occasionally I find that I'm really missing my food. On holidays, I found this more often - I just wanted to be able to go and try everything, but couldn't. However, we bought some fresh fruit and veggies, some cheese, antipasto and dip and kept it in the fridge - I found that I could have a taste of everything, but not much of anything, and I was still only eating about 1/2 a cup of food and feeling satisfied. A very big change from before! Well, actually, my head would have loved me to have more, but my tiny tummy wouldn't allow it. But then, you know, now it's easier to say no when I'm full. Before the op, I would have kept on eating until I felt fit to burst. And yes, food was my friend for about 51 years! But s/he made me pay a high price, and now I'm just starting to get on top of that - and I'm loving it! The chocolate does seem to go down much easier than everything else, I must say - but now I just buy a small one, because that's all I can have at one time, and I don't keep more in the house, so I'm not tempted to have more. And if I want something when I'm out, I'll buy something small like a Freddo and that really will be enough. I know, it seems strange to those of you who haven't been done yet, but it's true. It really does satisfy me now - and you have to understand that I was one of those people who would eat a family sized block of chocolate at one sitting and mourn that it was gone so quickly! The ides of finding other things to take your mind off food are great and I think they'll all be helpful. But for myself, I'm finding that the obsession with food just is not powerful like it once was, and I can get on with other things without having to try too hard. Shanna - I have to laugh thinking of you in the bath for 3 hours, and then getting out looking like a prune! Actually, I might try that again myself soon - I used to love long baths before I got too big for the tub! Chris | |
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ferret42 Newbie
Number of posts : 17 Age : 62 Location : Canberra Registration date : 2008-08-22
| Subject: Edina Monsoon Sat 06 Sep 2008, 2:40 am | |
| This is a great thread! It reminds me that the reason we are all on this forum and all facing weight related issues is the way we think about food. As Eddy replied when her daughter said the way to lose weight was simply to eat less and take a little exercise: "Don't be silly darling. If it were that easy everyone would be doing it!". Hopefully (fingers and toes crossed) getting sleeved will help make it 'that easy'. Today (maybe not yesterday and maybe not tomorrow)after reading all your warm and honest posts I am optimistic that with a little time I can do it too. Thankyou. | |
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Sam Newbie
Number of posts : 88 Age : 61 Location : Perth Registration date : 2008-07-18
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Sat 06 Sep 2008, 2:03 am | |
| I'm REALLY excited about the idea of having control. Having a lolly or two or a chip or two never killed anyone. But having one and then needing to belt down the whole packet is what does the damage. Consequently I can't keep any treaty things in the house and then I yearn for them like a madwoman and the headgames are all so tiresome and timewasting.
I watch my slim teenage daughter grabbing hot chips and a burger from KFC. She nibbles a few chips, she nibbles 1/4 of the burger and then announces she's full and throws the scraps to the dog. THAT's what I'm looking forward too. If from time to time I desire something 'naughty' and iwhether it's to celebrate or commiserate, at least it will be a tiny emotional crutch - a toothpick sized crutch - instead of a self-hating, fattening 200year old karri tree sized crutch !! | |
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bigbugger71 Newbie
Number of posts : 163 Age : 52 Location : Llanelli, Wales, UK Registration date : 2008-06-22
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Fri 05 Sep 2008, 8:22 pm | |
| Nicole You are not rambling, I agree with everything you say, my stomach hurts when I have eaten too much and when I am hungry! it's quite funny! BB | |
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nicolev1969 Top Poster
Number of posts : 1216 Age : 54 Location : bunbury Registration date : 2008-05-28
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Fri 05 Sep 2008, 2:15 am | |
| this is a fantastic thread.
I also had those feelings before my surgery. I wondered if i would be truely satisfied with only being able to eat a small amount of something i really liked. I wondered if i could eat just a piece of chocolate and not a whole block, I wondered if i would stuff it up and not lose weight. I wondered how i would go when i went out and if i could get used to nnot eating and drinking at the same time.....lots of things were going through my head about these issues.
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I am 10 weeks out from surgery and i can truely say that i have only have had one time that i wished i could have eaten more...the thought came and then vanished as i was extremely full ( cos i ate to much anyway...lol) It is really hard to explain but because you are full it gives you that satisfied feeling anyway...its strange but true. I am slowly getting used to not eating and drinking at the same time....i was making dinner last night and i decided to have a coffee, well when dinner was finished i couldnt sit down to eat it as i was still full from my coffee....it took about another 20 mins before ii could manage to eat anything. On the choc side of things...i bought i pack of funsize dairy milk choc ( 2 squares each) when i was on mushies...so about 7 weeks ago. In that time i have eaten 3 of them....i just dont seem to even think about it, and when i do i break one of the squares off and eat it....and the taste gives me the satisfaction....again strange...lol My other issue about eating out....well i must admit that i havent been out for a night time meal....but i have been for plenty of lunches....it was hard when i was on the first stages but now im eating normally i dont have a problem. I either order a entree or ask if i can order off the kids menu ( some places have an age limit) or i take something off the plate of a friend beside me....lol ( im cheap to take out now) I went out yesterday and met Emjay she let me have a bit of her chicken caeser salad. I think i need to go out with other sleevers and then we can just share a meal. But all up i find that i am not having any problems with the head tellling me what to eat and when. sorry for rambling....but i just thought of another thing.....i said to my dr yesterday that the thing that really seems to help is the fact that we cant eat alot....so you really do have to make good choices so that you get the right things into your body.... Anyway thats how i feel, i hope that it helps a little
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Shanna Sponsor
Number of posts : 633 Age : 68 Location : Bedford, NY USA Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Thu 04 Sep 2008, 1:23 am | |
| What a cord this thread has struck in so many of us. Yes, I am terrified that I will go through this surgery, risking my life to get it done- and it won't work. I won't lose weight. Anytime anyone says how hard they have to work at this after they have been sleeved I gulp. Only applesauce's comforting is keeping me going on this one here. Yes, I am planning to have a list ready, and a needlepoint or knitting thingy ready to keep my hands busy at night while I watch TV- or I will take my lap top into the family room and email all of you during the commercials which are inevitably advertising some food item. Yes, baths are wonderful and here is a trick that I am planning to use. We put a TV into the bathroom- hysterical I know- fortunately we have more than one bathroom,- and some nights I get into the tub at night with my bubbles and watch TV from the tub. Now the advantage of this is that even I am sceeved out by the idea of eating in the bathroom - yuck- and it isn't so easy to get out of the tub dripping wet and running over to the kitchen to check out the status of the refrigerator.... so- (thank goodness for the anonymity of on line confessions).... there are nights I spend 2 or 3 hours lying in the tub. | |
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em78 Newbie
Number of posts : 52 Age : 45 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-08-15
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Wed 03 Sep 2008, 11:09 pm | |
| You have no idea how happy I am to have found this thread! Even though i am still a comparative newbie ( sleeved for9 days and counting!) I am really feeling as though i have lost my best friend - food. It has occured to me how much i used to eat, just for the sake of it, just because it was there, or just becusae I might get hungry later. not to mention becusae I was happy, sad, WHATEVER excuse I could think of! I really like the other idea of finding something else that I am passionate about - looks like i will be booking myself in for more peidcures, manicures and massages!!!!! I didnt realise how it would affect me to sit down after making a really yummy meal for my kids and watch them eat it while i am eating mush! But each time i start to feel doubt, or feel sorry for myslef, i catch a glimpse of my reflection and i can see my neck, and only 1 chin, instead of 3! Then I realise thst this is worth it and that if i didnt do anything about my weight, I would have gotten bigger, more depressed and absolutely useless to everyone who relies on me. I am so thankful for this forum because I really feel that I am not alone and the emotions that I am feeling are not something that I have to experience alone. Em xo xo xo | |
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ferret42 Newbie
Number of posts : 17 Age : 62 Location : Canberra Registration date : 2008-08-22
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Wed 03 Sep 2008, 10:29 pm | |
| Speaking of 'head issues'- does anyone else have a sneaking feeling in the back of their mind that this just won't work? That, sure, it works for everyone else, but not me, that the weight will come back and I will fail yet again? That it's just too good to be true and I will stuff it up yet again. After 46 years of gaining weight, losing and regaining it I just can't get my head around the thought that this is a permanent solution. Amanda | |
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oldfart Moderator
Number of posts : 212 Age : 72 Location : Perth WA Registration date : 2008-05-27
| Subject: Re: Mental Health : Trying to heal the mental part to eating too much Wed 03 Sep 2008, 3:57 pm | |
| Hey guys, gotta say that there is some really good and helpful stuff here especially for someone as old and set in their ways like I am so I read it with appreciation ............. now big motor bikes are passionate ....... all I need is a rich saccarine mumma to buy me one!! | |
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