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Gutless Wonder Newbie
Number of posts : 163 Age : 60 Location : Perth, Australia Registration date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 14 Jun 2010, 6:37 am | |
| - Kilted wrote:
- Will definitely try out the banana and avocado mousse. Any other recipes out there using avocadoes??
Guacamole Mash an avocado well with a fork Squeeze in some lemon juice, and a fresh crushed garlic clove Stir in some sour cream (optional) Lots of cracked pepper & and sea salt.
Eat with crackers or thin toast or with potato chips | |
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applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 14 Jun 2010, 5:11 am | |
| nothing clever but you can make a simple pate spread by just blitzing some cooked chicken an advocado and a squeeze of lemon in your blender. spread on cruskets for lunch. you can add fresh herbs if you like. this would be suitable for the mushie stage as well,
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Libby Top Poster
Number of posts : 1975 Age : 52 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2009-07-04
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 14 Jun 2010, 5:04 am | |
| Congrats Lib on putting on weight. I hope you can continue to do so.
It's just such a bizarre thing for us to be discussing (putting ON weight) but it's good that it's out here so others are aware that this can happen.
This site is fantastic for putting out the good, the bad and the ugly of this surgery. Some people have no issues and breeze through the whole process. Some people have a couple of minor hiccups and others have downright bad times and this is where we want to be able to support those people.
I love this site. | |
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Kilted Newbie
Number of posts : 33 Location : Perth, W.A. Registration date : 2010-03-11
| Subject: Avo mousse Mon 14 Jun 2010, 4:46 am | |
| Will definitely try out the banana and avocado mousse. Any other recipes out there using avocadoes?? | |
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tarnz Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 372 Age : 48 Location : Brisbane Registration date : 2009-10-20
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 12:01 pm | |
| Well done Lib
xo tarnz xo | |
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*Lib* Top Poster
Number of posts : 1594 Age : 45 Location : Australia Registration date : 2009-03-31
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 11:47 am | |
| Thank you all for your replys. I have managed to put some weight on. I am now 51kg! So Ideally need another 9 kilos, I might have to give that mousse a go, sounds really yummy. I might make some biscuits with nuts in them too, I love nuts and biscuits so good combo! | |
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ssjad Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 970 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2010-03-21
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 3:07 am | |
| Mmm. A friend of mine makes a pie that sounds very similar. So yummy and so nutritious! | |
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Cuddly Kat Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 352 Age : 53 Location : Cairns Registration date : 2009-07-14
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 2:20 am | |
| That sounds sooooo delicious!!! | |
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Gutless Wonder Newbie
Number of posts : 163 Age : 60 Location : Perth, Australia Registration date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 1:41 am | |
| - ssjad wrote:
- Has anyone mentioned that wonder food, avocado, yet? Brilliant food - healthy fats, too - not artery clogging fats. Pretty much a meal-in-one.
Excellent advice ssjad! I love them. Here's an amazing recipe. 1 frozen banana ( chop it up before freezing) 1 ripe avocado 2 fresh dates (pips removed) 1 tablespoon cocoa powder ( I use greens & blacks organic powder) Blend in a food processor and it turns into the most heavenly chocolate mousse. Has to be tried to be believed. I eat it for breakfast some days after a banana berry smoothie made with full cream milk and greek yoghurt. | |
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ssjad Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 970 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2010-03-21
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 12:59 am | |
| Has anyone mentioned that wonder food, avocado, yet? Brilliant food - healthy fats, too - not artery clogging fats. Pretty much a meal-in-one. | |
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Cuddly Kat Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 352 Age : 53 Location : Cairns Registration date : 2009-07-14
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sun 13 Jun 2010, 12:56 am | |
| Hi Gutless Wonder and Lib - good to see that GW has experienced what you're going through Lib and that she managed to put the 10k back on to get back to a better body weight for her. I know we come from a place of being overweight but no-one wants to be underweight or not being able to control their weight either and while it is possible to put weight on with the sleeve, it certainly appears to take some effort to do it. Lib - I read your earlier post about the salami & hoped someone on the site would have some healthy advice about regaining using more natual high calorie foods / less processed foods. Good luck with this, let us know how you go with putting on a few kilos using the full cream products, nuts etc. I hope this works for you!! | |
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Gutless Wonder Newbie
Number of posts : 163 Age : 60 Location : Perth, Australia Registration date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sat 12 Jun 2010, 2:42 pm | |
| HI Lib. As you may already know,I had lost more weight than I wanted too, and it took me a year to put on 10 kilos. It is actually quite hard to do when you can't eat much. So I ate high fat foods like nuts and chocolate and cream and cheese and full fat milk. I had to constantly snack on these sorts of things. I have maintained this weight now for a few years, but I STILL have to eat lots of nuts, and I still drink full cream milk and have cream. I make home made rice pudding,and make my own paneer, (Indian curd cheese) my own yoghurt and I make nutty biscuits to snack on. I think the main thing is to stay away from highly processed foods. Keep it as natural as possible. I don't want to be too skinny and this is the only thing that works for me. I actually like it, even though some days is a struggle and I know I don't eat enough. It's something I never thought I would have to worry about, but I am so used to it now, it's the new normal.
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Janette Top Poster
Number of posts : 4341 Age : 70 Location : Gundagai, NSW Registration date : 2009-09-13
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sat 12 Jun 2010, 4:07 am | |
| I have a friend who is right into all the healthy stuff, high protein, etc (she's not a sleever) and tells me you should be good 6 days each week, then have a day off, where you eat anything. I was away last weekend at a retreat where all food was supplied, so just ate whatever was supplied including a taste of the cheesecake and carmel tart!! This week I had a good loss. So maybe there is something in this theory | |
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Countrygirl Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 811 Age : 55 Location : Albany WA Registration date : 2008-12-09
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Sat 12 Jun 2010, 3:58 am | |
| Its an interesting one issi and one I struggle with all the time. I eat enough but stop before I get really full and not much happens. My weight just hovers around the same amount. Then I go out for tea last night, eat until I am stuffed and this morning I am down 600 grams. Sometimes I thnk we just need to mix it up a bit. Just remembering to keep up the protein and good foods and only the occasional bad stuff. | |
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issi Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 277 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-07-12
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Tue 08 Jun 2010, 12:52 pm | |
| Lib I don't understand weight gain/loss anymore. I thought it was all calories numbers for so long but I have lost 5kg in the last 2 weeks and I am 16w preggy and eating like a horse so it makes no sense (literally at least 2 chicken breasts a day, 6+ slices whole grain bread, a whole tub of baby sprouts every day, swiss cheese, yoghurt, milk, vita wheats, fruit). I am eating at least 8 times a day and quite a bit at each siting but making sure it's balanced protien/grains/veges. I can't figure out how eating so much has me losing weight. I'm spreading my bread thick with 60% philly. I haven't updated my ticker but my bmi is finally under 25 now that i'm preggy how does that work? I am eating a lot more than you mention and not gaining weight so I wish I had a magic answer but i don't I just wanted to say I understand what it's like and how frustrating it can be. I was eating a lot less than this before and struggling to lose. It's a real mind game!
Good luck and I hope you find an eating method that helps you long term. Use your dietician for advice too that's what you are paying him for :-) ---- although my dietician is telling me i'm eating too much so go figure! can't figure out how i'm losing weight if i'm really eating as much as i say i am. | |
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applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Tue 08 Jun 2010, 5:40 am | |
| my son is bulking up at the moment and NO not a bloody arnie.
his diet is...........
breakfast upngo energizer banna
morning tea protien bar LOW carb one
lunch chicken & salad roll on wholemeal break, you would skip the break I would asume.
afternoon tea before gym protien shake mixed with skim milk, I would suggest whole milk for you he uses 350ml you prob would only do 250ml
training
second protien shake
dinner chicken usally veggies or anything he fancies
snack before bed banna
besides the bread roll there is nothing there that you can not get down, there is NOTHING there even remotely unhealthy for you, the son is a nothing but healthy stuff goes in that temple of his, okay he likes the odd chicken crackle wand wedge for dinner but 90% of his diet is high protien lots of fresh veg fruit and very healhty.
you just have to take wanting to do this seriously and commit to it. I can point out protien shakes that dont taste like monkey ass even a lower level protien bar that might not be as high in protien as the ones he eats but gawd tastes just like a snickers.
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fatnomore Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 526 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2009-12-30
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Tue 08 Jun 2010, 2:12 am | |
| http://nutrition.about.com/od/dietsformedicaldisorders/f/GainWeight.htm
Lib..I googled how to gain weight in a healthy way...above is one website but heaps of suggestions in there.... hope you can stack a few kgs on yourself to feel better xx | |
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Eternlslady Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 413 Age : 42 Location : Central Coast, NSW Registration date : 2009-01-11
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Tue 08 Jun 2010, 1:05 am | |
| Okay - this isn't advice because I am certainly not a trained professional... You are underweight because you have lost too much muscle... so you don't want to put on FAT, you want to put on MUSCLE to gain weight. So it seems to me that concentrating on really high protein foods and doing some sort of weight/resistance training would be the way to go about succeeding. Am I right? | |
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mapmar Top Poster
Number of posts : 2342 Age : 54 Location : Perth, Western Australia Registration date : 2009-09-09
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Tue 08 Jun 2010, 12:52 am | |
| I would seek help both professionally through a Psychologist and also a dietitian to make sure you are getting enough nutrition. I think eating "junk" food to put on weight is terrible.... salami.. eeks.... Getting a proper diet plan for weightgain shouldn't be that hard and that way you will feel much better in what you are eating instead of feeling guilty and going backwards in losing weight again - being out of control.... Your health is suffering now being underweight, but there are definitely better ways in putting on weight than eating junk food.... Good luck and let us know how you are progressing. | |
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Emily Part of the furniture
Number of posts : 1180 Location : Earth Registration date : 2010-04-12
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Tue 08 Jun 2010, 12:51 am | |
| Lib could you use SparkPeople or Calorie King to track what you're eating to get some ideas for more high calorie healthy foods? It's hard to advise because I don't know how much you can fit in but regular snacking plus healthy meals that are high in protein and (good) fats should do it. | |
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*Lib* Top Poster
Number of posts : 1594 Age : 45 Location : Australia Registration date : 2009-03-31
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 07 Jun 2010, 11:48 pm | |
| - chrisbychic wrote:
- A few questions - who advised you to put on weight? And for what reason? Was it the doc? Are you really too thin? Both my surgeon and dietitian have said I need to put on weight, at the moment I am 49kg. I am classed as under weight, and I look a little skeletal.
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chrisbychic Top Poster
Number of posts : 7036 Age : 67 Location : Adelaide, Australia Registration date : 2008-06-02
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 07 Jun 2010, 9:46 pm | |
| Well, I haven't reached my healthy weight range, but have lost much more than expected. I still put on weight quickly if I don't watch what I'm eating, though. A few questions - who advised you to put on weight? And for what reason? Was it the doc? Are you really too thin? Eating junk isn't a great way to put on weight. Well, it is, because it works, but it's not healthy, as you well know. And you don't want to end up back where you started, either! If it were me (I wish!), I'd be eating healthy, protein-rich meals with some carbs. If you need to put on, perhaps having protein meals 3 times a day and healthy carb snacks in between? Good luck, and let us know how you go. | |
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applesauce Top Poster
Number of posts : 1999 Location : Perth Western Australia Registration date : 2008-05-26
| Subject: Re: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 07 Jun 2010, 1:52 pm | |
| the realities are you need to eat in a consistant way to put on weight. losing weight is very addictive and fear of gaining can create just as many excuses not to eat as you once found to eat.
there is no reason what so ever if you have these concerns that you can not eat protien bars and drink protien shakes. it is all about being consistant doing it every single day 2 or 3 times a day.
if you feel you can not do this you need to seek help with a mental helth professional.
it isnt going to be easy to get past this but it has to be consistant and not a when I feel like it what I feel like it snack. Imagine trying to lose weight with that aproach a disaster.
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*Lib* Top Poster
Number of posts : 1594 Age : 45 Location : Australia Registration date : 2009-03-31
| Subject: Wrong food choices and using my sleeve... Mon 07 Jun 2010, 1:23 pm | |
| I have been advised to put on some weight. I have put on 1.3kg in 4 weeks, but I think am sure I am doing it the wrong way and its going to backfire on me.
Can the long termers tell me if once you are goal weight do you have to diet as such?
Tonight I have had, some chicken for dinner, not much. 2 Icecreams 1 rice cake with peanut butter some oreo cookies a coffee and a salami stick.
I find I am now compulsivly eating, because I have the excuse of needing to put on weight. While I know it will help me gain weight, I hope, I also wonder about my arteries!
Today I didn't have time for lunch so I snacked on peanuts, only cause they were there and I had some mixed lollies that are in the drawer at work. I felt really unwell afterwards, numb tounge and felt quite ill. No sugar rush or anything, but I did have to vomit (First time in months!)
So long story short, how do you deal with the cravings, or do you just eat whatever you want? | |
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